[U-Boot] U-book and GPLv3? (fwd)

[ksi at koi8.net]

On Thu, 25 Jun 2009, Jean-Christian de Rivaz wrote:

> ksi at koi8.net a ?crit :
> > On Thu, 25 Jun 2009, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > 
> > > On Wednesday 24 June 2009 20:59:11 Richard Stallman wrote:
> > > > The principal purpose of these products is to restrict the
> public's
> > > > freedom.  So it is natural that their means involve restricting
> our
> > > > freedom too.
> > > it sure is nice to make generalities as it makes your resulting
> argument
> > > so much easier to digest.  the companies ive worked with could give
> two
> > > sh*ts about end customers tinkering with their products.  they're
> > > interested
> > > in keeping their product secure from other people in their
> respective
> > > industry and from malicious tampering for regulation/safety
> purposes.
> > 
> > I would like to add that sometimes regulations EXPLICITELY require
> secure
> > boot. No product can be approved without it. And this does not have
> anything
> > to do with public's freedom. Just one example is gambling industry
> which I
> > happen to work right now. Nobody cares about cloning or public's
> freedom
> > here. What they care about is that nobody can cheat on those nice
> shiny
> > machines that sometimes let a lucky person to win a multimillion
> jackpot.
> 
> Please point out precisely the regulations that require secure boot.
> Should be
> trivial as regulations are by definition public.

Do you happen to know what "Google" is?

This is our Nevada regulations:

http://gaming.nv.gov/stats_regs.htm

> I failed to understand how a secure booted machine can be updated by the
> manufacturer to fix a bug for example, but not by a customer.

The manufacturer can _NOT_ update his machine at will. _EACH AND EVERY_
change goes through the same approval process.

And one more hint--external hackers is _NOT_ the primary concern here. The
most important task is to make cheating by casino _EMPLOYEES_ as difficult
as it's possible.

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