[U-Boot] Relocation size penalty calculation

Graeme Russ graeme.russ at gmail.com
Sat Oct 10 13:21:10 CEST 2009


On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 9:47 PM, Joakim Tjernlund
<joakim.tjernlund at transmode.se> wrote:
>
>
> Graeme Russ <graeme.russ at gmail.com> wrote on 10/10/2009 12:38:19:
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 8:27 PM, Joakim Tjernlund
>> <joakim.tjernlund at transmode.se> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Graeme Russ <graeme.russ at gmail.com> wrote on 10/10/2009 10:46:52:
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 7:07 PM, Joakim Tjernlund
>> >> <joakim.tjernlund at transmode.se> wrote:
>> >> > Graeme Russ <graeme.russ at gmail.com> wrote on 10/10/2009 06:43:52:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Joakim Tjernlund
>> >> >> <joakim.tjernlund at transmode.se> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 9:27 AM, J. William Campbell
>> >> >> >> <jwilliamcampbell at comcast.net> wrote:
>> >> >> >> > Graeme Russ wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 2:58 AM, J. William Campbell
>> >> >> >> >> <jwilliamcampbell at comcast.net> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>> Graeme Russ wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>> Out of curiosity, I wanted to see just how much of a size penalty I am
>> >> >> >> >>>> incurring by using gcc -fpic / ld -pic on my x86 u-boot build. Here are
>> >> >> >> >>>> the results (fixed width font will help - its space, not tab,
>> >> >> >> >>>> formatted):
>> >> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>> Section             non-reloc     reloc
>> >> >> >> >>>> ---------------------------------------
>> >> >> >> >>>> .text                000118c4  000137fc <- 0x1f38 bytes (~8kB) bigger
>> >> >> >> >>>> .rodata              00005bad  000059d0
>> >> >> >> >>>> .interp              n/a       00000013
>> >> >> >> >>>> .dynstr              n/a       00000648
>> >> >> >> >>>> .hash                n/a       00000428
>> >> >> >> >>>> .eh_frame            00003268  000034fc
>> >> >> >> >>>> .data                00000a6c  000001dc
>> >> >> >> >>>> .data.rel            n/a       00000098
>> >> >> >> >>>> .data.rel.ro.local   n/a       00000178
>> >> >> >> >>>> .data.rel.local      n/a       000007e4
>> >> >> >> >>>> .got                 00000000  000001f0
>> >> >> >> >>>> .got.plt             n/a       0000000c
>> >> >> >> >>>> .rel.got             n/a       000003e0
>> >> >> >> >>>> .rel.dyn             n/a       00001228
>> >> >> >> >>>> .dynsym              n/a       00000850
>> >> >> >> >>>> .dynamic             n/a       00000080
>> >> >> >> >>>> .u_boot_cmd          000003c0  000003c0
>> >> >> >> >>>> .bss                 00001a34  00001a34
>> >> >> >> >>>> .realmode            00000166  00000166
>> >> >> >> >>>> .bios                0000053e  0000053e
>> >> >> >> >>>> =======================================
>> >> >> >> >>>> Total                0001d5dd  00022287 <- 0x4caa bytes (~19kB) bigger
>> >> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>> Its more than a 16% increase in size!!!
>> >> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>> .text accounts for a little under half of the total bloat, and of that,
>> >> >> >> >>>> the crude dynamic loader accounts for only 341 bytes
>> >> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>> Hi Graeme,
>> >> >> >> >>>     I would be interested in a third option (column), the x86 build with
>> >> >> >> >>> just -mrelocateable but NOT -fpic. It will not be definitive because
>> >> >> >> >>> there
>> >> >> >> >>> will be extra code that references the GOT and missing code to do some of
>> >> >> >> >>> the relocation, but it would still be interesting.
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> x86 does not have -mrelocatable. This is a PPC only option :(
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Hi Graeme,
>> >> >> >> >          You are unfortunately correct. However, I wonder if we can get
>> >> >> >> > essentially the same result by executing the final ld step with the
>> >> >> >> > --emit-relocs switch included. This may also include some "extra" sections
>> >> >> >> > that we would want to strip out, but if it works, it could give all
>> >> >> >> > ELF-based systems a way to a relocatable u-boot.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I don't think --emit-relocs is necessary with -pic. I haven't gone through
>> >> >> >> all the permutations to see if there is a smaller option, but gcc -fpic and
>> >> >> >> ld -pie creates enough information to perform relocation on the x86
>> >> >> >> platform
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Try -fvisibility=hidden
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks - Shaved another 2539 bytes off the binary
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Also found out how to get rid of .eh_frame (crept in when I upgraded to
>> >> >> gcc 4.4.1) with -fno-dwarf2-cfi-asm, so that shaves another 13452 bytes
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Total saving of 15.6k
>> >> >
>> >> > Great, so now you are back at just a few percent added I guess?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Not really - The .eh_frame saving applies to both relocated and non
>> >> relocated builds
>> >
>> > OK, so you didn't use PIC before at all?
>> >
>> > Anyway I think you can do more. Using -Bsymbolic you should get
>> > away with RELATIVE relocs only and be able to skip a lot of segments above.
>> > Have a look at uClibc ldso/ldso/dl-startup.c
>> >
>> >
>>
>> My build options thus far are:
>>
>> PLATFORM_RELFLAGS += -fpie -fvisibility=hidden
>> PLATFORM_CPPFLAGS += -fno-dwarf2-cfi-asm
>> PLATFORM_LDFLAGS += -pie
>>
>> -fpic / -pic make no difference
>
> not on x86, on ppc it is a big difference.
>
>>
>> Interestingly, -Bsymbolic adds exactly 8 bytes to .dynamic, but doesn't
>> change the size of any other section
>>
>> Pulling apart the relocation sections, it seems that all relocations are
>> already RELATIVE even without -Bsymbolic
>
> Ah, that is because you built an exe with -pie
> Then you should be able to drop everything but the RELATIVE
> from the linking, or almost in any case.
>
>  Jocke
>
>

Hmm, so its seems I may have hit the limit. I tried:

PLATFORM_LDFLAGS += -r --emit-relocs

but there is not enough information left to complete the relocation. It
seems as though I need .rel.got, .got.plt, .dynsym and .rel.dyn in order
to find the actual bytes that need modifying (it also seems to mess with
the size of the stripped binary for some reason)

Looks like I'll have to proceed with my original plan - a bit bloated,
but it works

Graeme


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