[U-Boot-Custodians] [U-Boot-Board-Maintainers] [U-Boot] [ANN] U-Boot v2019.07-rc4 released

[Tom Rini]

On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 09:43:42PM +0200, Marek Vasut wrote:
> On 6/22/19 9:12 PM, Heinrich Schuchardt wrote:
> > On 6/22/19 8:15 PM, Simon Glass wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> On Sat, 22 Jun 2019 at 16:10, Andreas Färber <afaerber at suse.de> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Simon,
> >>>
> >>> Am 22.06.19 um 16:55 schrieb Simon Glass:
> >>>> I'd like to better understand the benefits of the 3-month timeline.
> >>>
> >>> It takes time to learn about a release, package and build it, test it on
> >>> various hardware, investigate and report errors, wait for feedback and
> >>> fixes, rinse and repeat with the next -rc. Many people don't do this as
> >>> their main job.
> >>>
> >>> If we shorten the release cycle, newer boards will get out faster (which
> >>> is good) but the overall quality of boards not actively worked on
> >>> (because they were working good enough before) will decay, which is bad.
> >>> The only way to counteract that would be to automatically test on real
> >>> hardware rather than just building, and doing that for all these masses
> >>> of boards seems unrealistic.
> >>
> >> Here I think you are talking about distributions. But why not just
> >> take every second release?
> >>
> >> I have certain had the experience of getting a board our of the
> >> cupboard and finding that the latest U-Boot doesn't work, nor the one
> >> before, nor the three before that.
> >>
> >> Are we actually seeing an improvement in regressions? I feel that
> >> testing is the only way to get that.
> >>
> >> Perhaps we should select a small subset of boards which do get tested,
> >> and actually have custodians build/test on those for every rc?
> > 
> > What I have been doing before all my recent pull requests is to boot
> > both an arm32 (Orange Pi) and and an aarch64 (Pine A64 LTS) board via
> > bootefi and GRUB. To make this easier I am using a Raspberry with a
> > relay board and a Tizen SD-Wire card (https://wiki.tizen.org/SDWire)
> > controlling the system under test,
> > cf https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D5ugi3iX4AAh1bn.jpg:large
> > What would be needed is scripts to automate the testing including all
> > the Python tests.
> > 
> > It would make sense to have such test automation for all of our
> > architectures similar to what Kernel CI (https://kernelci.org/) does.
> 
> So who's gonna set it up and host it ?

My hope is that we can make use of the GitLab CI features to carefully
(!!!!) expose some labs and setups.

-- 
Tom
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