[U-Boot-Users] [PATCH] Pass full u-boot environment to booting kernel

Pantelis Antoniou panto at intracom.gr
Tue Sep 14 15:26:41 CEST 2004


Wolfgang Denk wrote:
> In message <4146DDA4.5070009 at intracom.gr> you wrote:
> 
>>It's a discussion related to the kernel. Its mainly private email
>>exchanges.
> 
> 
> I really like this new trend in Free Software development :-(
> 
> The interesting public mailing lists (linuxppc) get  shut  down,  and
> discussions  about  future  kernel  developments take place on IRC or
> "private email exchanges" only.
> 
> If you don't happen do be chosen for such elitist circles you  cannot
> participate in kernel development any more.
> 
> This is not my idea of how things should be done.
> 

Nothing is closed. You are welcome to discuss this online @ #mklinux.

It's just that for some matters the latency of email is too much.

And if you've noticed the lists were out of commission for about
a week and a half.

> 
> 
>>The consensus is that there is no consensus for anything but the
>>fact that something like this is needed.
>>
>>The other solution discussed is bi_recs.
> 
> 
> I will not comment on things I have no chance to get an opinion about.

Again please make your case online.

> 
> 
>>If you take a look at the patch you'll see that the environment is not
>>passed in the command line.
>>
>>Merely a memory structure in a non-overwrittable area is created and
>>the (physical) address of it is passed to the kernel.
> 
> 
> There is no kernel interface for such stuff in existing Linux kernels
> (at least as far as they are accessable by mere  mortals).  There  is
> not even a definition of "non-overwrittable area".
> 
> 
> As long as there is no agreement how the  Linux  kernel  will  handle
> these  issues  (and  with  "Linux  kernel"  I  mean  what  you get at
> kernel.org, and what works at least on ARM, MIPS and  PowerPC)  I  do
> not want to add this to U-Boot.

Understood.

> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Wolfgang Denk
> 

The simple matter is that the community is by definition disorganized.

There is no great designer, but authority figure to declare this or
that by fiat. Just a bunch of poor slobs trying to reach a censunsus.

I'm not happy about a number of things but I'll be damned if I sit
in my chair and pout about them.

If you want to affect the course of development you must get involved.
This is specially important now since the 2.6 kernel is just getting
to work on some important embedded ppc platforms.

It is shame for all your fine contributions to be discarded, but you
must get the word out about them.

Regards

Pantelis




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