[U-Boot-Users] [PATCH] Pass full u-boot environment to booting kernel
Pantelis Antoniou
panto at intracom.gr
Tue Sep 14 15:26:41 CEST 2004
Wolfgang Denk wrote:
> In message <4146DDA4.5070009 at intracom.gr> you wrote:
>
>>It's a discussion related to the kernel. Its mainly private email
>>exchanges.
>
>
> I really like this new trend in Free Software development :-(
>
> The interesting public mailing lists (linuxppc) get shut down, and
> discussions about future kernel developments take place on IRC or
> "private email exchanges" only.
>
> If you don't happen do be chosen for such elitist circles you cannot
> participate in kernel development any more.
>
> This is not my idea of how things should be done.
>
Nothing is closed. You are welcome to discuss this online @ #mklinux.
It's just that for some matters the latency of email is too much.
And if you've noticed the lists were out of commission for about
a week and a half.
>
>
>>The consensus is that there is no consensus for anything but the
>>fact that something like this is needed.
>>
>>The other solution discussed is bi_recs.
>
>
> I will not comment on things I have no chance to get an opinion about.
Again please make your case online.
>
>
>>If you take a look at the patch you'll see that the environment is not
>>passed in the command line.
>>
>>Merely a memory structure in a non-overwrittable area is created and
>>the (physical) address of it is passed to the kernel.
>
>
> There is no kernel interface for such stuff in existing Linux kernels
> (at least as far as they are accessable by mere mortals). There is
> not even a definition of "non-overwrittable area".
>
>
> As long as there is no agreement how the Linux kernel will handle
> these issues (and with "Linux kernel" I mean what you get at
> kernel.org, and what works at least on ARM, MIPS and PowerPC) I do
> not want to add this to U-Boot.
Understood.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Wolfgang Denk
>
The simple matter is that the community is by definition disorganized.
There is no great designer, but authority figure to declare this or
that by fiat. Just a bunch of poor slobs trying to reach a censunsus.
I'm not happy about a number of things but I'll be damned if I sit
in my chair and pout about them.
If you want to affect the course of development you must get involved.
This is specially important now since the 2.6 kernel is just getting
to work on some important embedded ppc platforms.
It is shame for all your fine contributions to be discarded, but you
must get the word out about them.
Regards
Pantelis
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