[U-Boot-Users] Atmel DataFlash hooks.

Tolunay Orkun listmember at orkun.us
Thu Feb 1 03:46:21 CET 2007


Wolfgang Denk wrote:
>> Then please continue to explain why, when you are doing exactly
>> the same manouvers, but use a serial flash, you do not need the
>> commands.
>>     
>
> Because these devices are not directly addressable in the processors
> address space, i. e. they are not memory.
>
> Everything is fine as long as the "md" command in U-Boot and the "md"
> command at my BDI2000's telnet prompt show the same results  for  the
> same  address ranges. When this is NOT the case, something is broken.
> Here, it is the U-Boot implementation.
>   

I guess I am OK with either implementation.

I think just because BDI is not capable of handling any address space 
besides the processor address space should not mean we should so 
restrictive of command line of U-Boot. I think address space tags that I 
proposed yesterday could remove the confusion of what address the 
command is referring to and it is easy to explain that a BDI could only 
access untagged address space directly and everything else are 
indirectly accessible memory. This would also enable us to use paged 
memory mapped to a small window in processor address space seamlessly.

Anyway, I think either approach is valid and usable. There are pros and 
cons with either scheme.

I think it might be easier to educate the user with one set of commands 
as opposed to user having to decide which one of several <dev> 
read/write commands should be applicable.

>> The concept to map an address is not at all hard to explain.
>> Even so, I have never had the question in over 100 projects.
>>     
>
> For me this is a very important issue: when  U-Boto  and  a  hardware
> debugger  start  behaving  differently,  I  consider  this  a serious
> problem. U-Boot is a boot loader, and as such mostly a hardware debug
> tool.
>   

I see your point. However, with a hardware debugger you are not 
currently able to mmc data directly and so you could not be able to 
access mmc:0x00112233 either because "mmc:0x00112233" is not an address 
that would be valid for BDI. So, I see no difference. It is really 
mostly a matter of style rather than function.

Having the capability of u-boot memory commands to access different 
address spaces is a convenience feature. When such feature is not 
available the read/write commands will bring a chunk to ram and it will 
be processed using memory commands again so first one would allow the 
two operations combined but not a huge gain or loss either way.

Having said all that, I will concluded that either way is OK for me as 
long as we maintain consistent architecture.

Tolunay






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