[U-Boot] [ANNOUNCE] Kconfig support

Mike Frysinger vapier at gentoo.org
Mon Apr 20 20:29:32 CEST 2009


On Monday 20 April 2009 11:34:33 Sascha Hauer wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 11:20:50AM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > On Monday 20 April 2009 10:53:39 Robert Schwebel wrote:
> > > On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 10:42:08AM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > > > > U-Boot-v2 is used here to do real work in our projects. If it isn't
> > > > > what you need, it is perfectly fine if you ignore it.
> > > >
> > > > my concern isnt really narrow to the Blackfin port. i was using it as
> > > > a practical example. we've talked about v2 in the past as the answer
> > > > to many of our problems and so we dont bother doing it in v1. but
> > > > that approach looks to be wrong as v2 is of little practical
> > > > importance. instead we should be doing what Jean-Christophe is doing:
> > > > poaching good ideas until we get to the point where v2 can simply
> > > > die.
> > >
> > > If you mean "you" while saying "we", then yes, it may be correct that
> > > this is your plan. "We" don't have any plans to let v2 die.
> > >
> > > Should we be mindful of the future? But not at the expense of the
> > > moment. Be mindful of the living Force, my young Padawan.
> >
> > i never said "kill it now"; quite the opposite really.  in fact, it looks
> > like you really arent taking your own saying to heart.  my point is to
> > look to the future and stop wasting resources.  if v1 incorporates all
> > the features of v2, then v2 has no purpose at all except to split
> > development and waste peoples time.
>
> Well as you said at the moment there is not much community around
> u-boot-v2, so it's basically *our* time which we waste, and we are free
> to do so. At the moment it seems you're wasting *your* time by warming
> up this stupid discussion which Jerry already led to a nice ending.

you seem intent on doing your own thing and nuts to anyone else.  now that we 
all know this, we can stop looking at v2 as an answer to anything.  if we want 
something realistic, then we implement it in v1 after perhaps checking to see 
if v2 implemented something at the theoretical level (so we at least have an 
idea if something is going to work).

Jerry's point was that the open source license allows you to do this.  i never 
said otherwise.  my point was that this isnt how open source *communities* 
work.  the spirit is to *work together* not say screw everyone else.

considering your stance, i wonder why you even call it "u-boot v2".  clearly 
it has no relation to u-boot, neither in source code, intent, nor plans, so 
the more appropriate label would be "the pengutronix bootloader".
-mike
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