[U-Boot] [PATCH v3] socfpga: Modify qts-filter args to allow input for bsp generated files and quartus project directories

Chin Liang See clsee at altera.com
Wed Jan 13 03:45:46 CET 2016


On Wed, 2016-01-13 at 03:34 +0100, Marek Vasut wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 13, 2016 at 03:23:38 AM, Chin Liang See wrote:
> > On Wed, 2016-01-13 at 03:07 +0100, Marek Vasut wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, January 13, 2016 at 03:05:40 AM, Chin Liang See
> > > wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 2016-01-12 at 03:48 +0100, Marek Vasut wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, January 12, 2016 at 01:50:18 AM, Chin Liang See
> > > > > 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > On Tue, 2016-01-12 at 01:31 +0100, Marek Vasut wrote:
> > > > > > > On Tuesday, January 12, 2016 at 01:26:58 AM, Chin Liang
> > > > > > > See
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Mon, 2016-01-11 at 15:33 -0800, Dalon Westergreen
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > [...]
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > btw. Completely off-topic, but is there any chance altera
> > > > > > > will
> > > > > > > release the
> > > > > > > algorithm to compute these magic values which are in the
> > > > > > > header
> > > > > > > files
> > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > the base values inserted into the HPS component in QSys ?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I would not suggesting that as Qsys and Quartus are doing
> > > > > > heavylifting
> > > > > > tasks there. The value would depends on the options being
> > > > > > choosed,
> > > > > > device type, device revision (if any). They also being
> > > > > > patched
> > > > > > from
> > > > > > time to time too.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Is it all really _that_ complicated ? That's why I'd like to
> > > > > see
> > > > > the
> > > > > code
> > > > > that's doing all that computation.
> > > > 
> > > > Actually more challenges is that the code is proprietary. We
> > > > might
> > > > get
> > > > stopped by legal team before making this happen too.
> > > 
> > > What's proprietary about it ? Isn't that SDRAM controller made in
> > > -house
> > > by Altera ?
> > 
> > Oh seems we might discussing slightly different things. I am
> > referring
> > to IOCSR which is the bitstream for setting up the IO buffers. I
> > presume you are referring to SDRAM configuration, right?
> 
> Yeah, I'm talking about the SDRAM controller configuration values.

Cool, let me take a look on the SDRAM handoff we have today.

> 
> I know the IOCSR is a problem. I am reverse engineering the Cyclone
> IV
> bitstream format in my free time now and then, but I didn't have time
> to look at C V and I don't plan to do it any soon. I think even my
> C/IV
> activity might trigger someone in Altera once I get around to
> releasing
> it ;-)

haha :) There are various knob in Quartus that might change the IOCSR
itself. Shall let the tools to handle it for better user experience.

> 
> > > > > Even if it's done at compile-time, it'd
> > > > > still be better than the horrible headers which we have to
> > > > > use
> > > > > now.
> > > > 
> > > > I believe DTS would be better format than header file.
> > > 
> > > Coming up with sensible bindings would be hard though.
> > 
> > Yah, that why this is get rid when we switch to Arria 10 SoC :)
> 
> Well you'll still need to configure the HardIP which does the DDR
> calib
> with some DDR config values, so you cannot get rid of it entirely.
> Unless
> you pull these values from SPD, which I doubt would be the case,
> since
> the A10 would be mostly embedded chip.

Nope, its part of bitstream. Bitstream will contain the information on
the DDR devices on the board. This is similar to what being implemented
in traditional FPGA devices.

Thanks
Chin Liang

> 
> Best regards,
> Marek Vasut


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