[U-Boot] [U-Boot-Custodians] [U-Boot-Board-Maintainers] [ANN] U-Boot v2019.07-rc4 released

Marek Vasut marex at denx.de
Mon Jun 24 17:10:01 UTC 2019

On 6/24/19 3:56 PM, Simon Glass wrote:
> Hi Andreas,,
> On Sat, 22 Jun 2019 at 20:49, Andreas Färber <afaerber at suse.de> wrote:
>> Hi Simon,
>> Am 22.06.19 um 21:14 schrieb Simon Glass:
>>> On Sat, 22 Jun 2019 at 20:08, Andreas Färber <afaerber at suse.de> wrote:
>>>> Am 22.06.19 um 20:15 schrieb Simon Glass:
>>>>> On Sat, 22 Jun 2019 at 16:10, Andreas Färber <afaerber at suse.de> wrote:
>>>>>> Am 22.06.19 um 16:55 schrieb Simon Glass:
>>>>>>> I'd like to better understand the benefits of the 3-month timeline.
>>>>>> It takes time to learn about a release, package and build it, test it on
>>>>>> various hardware, investigate and report errors, wait for feedback and
>>>>>> fixes, rinse and repeat with the next -rc. Many people don't do this as
>>>>>> their main job.
>>>>>> If we shorten the release cycle, newer boards will get out faster (which
>>>>>> is good) but the overall quality of boards not actively worked on
>>>>>> (because they were working good enough before) will decay, which is bad.
>>>>>> The only way to counteract that would be to automatically test on real
>>>>>> hardware rather than just building, and doing that for all these masses
>>>>>> of boards seems unrealistic.
>>>>> Here I think you are talking about distributions. But why not just
>>>>> take every second release?
>>>> You're missing my point: What good is it to do a release when you
>>>> yourself consider it of such poor quality that you advise others not to
>>>> take it?
>>> Who said that?
>> You, quoted above. In response to my concerns about decreasing quality
>> you suggested to take only every second release. That doesn't improve
>> the quality of either. It implies that one may have such bad quality
>> that people should skip it and yet does nothing to improve the next.
> Actually I did not say that I consider the release of such poor
> quality. Nor did I advise others to take it. I suspect this is a
> misunderstanding of "But why not just take every second release?".
> My point was that if people don't have time to test every release,
> then just put in the time to test every second release.

So what about be the point of releasing the untested intermediate
release at all ? I'm sure people can just grab u-boot/master or -rc2
just fine.


Best regards,
Marek Vasut

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