[PATCH 00/27] dm: Change the way sequence numbers are implemented
Michal Simek
michal.simek at xilinx.com
Fri Dec 11 08:28:46 CET 2020
Hi Simon,
On 10. 12. 20 18:46, Simon Glass wrote:
> Hi Michal,
>
> On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 at 10:33, Michal Simek <michal.simek at xilinx.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Simon,
>>
>> On 10. 12. 20 18:27, Simon Glass wrote:
>>> Hi Michal,
>>>
>>> On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 at 00:34, Michal Simek <michal.simek at xilinx.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> On 09. 12. 20 17:30, Michael Walle wrote:
>>>>> Hi Simon,
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 2020-12-09 17:23, schrieb Simon Glass:
>>>>>> On Tue, 8 Dec 2020 at 15:52, Michael Walle <michael at walle.cc> wrote:
>>>>>>> Am 2020-11-30 02:53, schrieb Simon Glass:
>>>>>>>> At present each device has two sequence numbers, with 'req_seq' being
>>>>>>>> set up at bind time and 'seq' at probe time. The idea is that devices
>>>>>>>> can 'request' a sequence number and then the conflicts are resolved
>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>> the device is probed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This makes things complicated in a few cases, since we don't really
>>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>>> (at bind time) what the sequence number will end up being. We want to
>>>>>>>> honour the bind-time requests if at all possible, but in fact the only
>>>>>>>> source of these at present is the devicetree aliases.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Apart from the obvious need for sequence numbers to supports U-Boot's
>>>>>>>> numbering on devices on the command line, the current scheme was
>>>>>>>> designed to:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - avoid calculating the sequence number until it is needed, to save
>>>>>>>> execution time
>>>>>>>> - allow multiple devices to obtain a particular sequence number as
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>> are probed and removed
>>>>>>>> - retain a record of the 'requested' sequence number even if it turns
>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>> that a device could not get it (to allow debugging and retrying)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> After some years using the current scheme it seems on balance that
>>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>> goals don't have as much merit as first thought. The first point would
>>>>>>>> be persuasive except that we end up reading the devicetree aliases at
>>>>>>>> bind-time anyway. So the work of resolving the sequence numbers during
>>>>>>>> probing is not that great. The second point hasn't really been an
>>>>>>>> issue,
>>>>>>>> as there is typically no contention for sequence numbers (boards tend
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> allocate them statically in the devicetree). Re the third point, we
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>> often figure out what was requested by looking at aliases, and in the
>>>>>>>> cases where we can't, it doesn't seem to matter much.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Since we have the devicetree available at bind time, we may as well
>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>> use it, in the hope that the required processing will turn out to be
>>>>>>>> useful later (i.e. the device actually gets used). In addition, it is
>>>>>>>> simpler to use a single sequence number, since it avoids confusion and
>>>>>>>> some extra code.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This series moves U-Boot to use a single, bind-time sequence number.
>>>>>>>> All
>>>>>>>> uclasses with the DM_UC_FLAG_SEQ_ALIAS flag enabled will assign
>>>>>>>> sequence
>>>>>>>> numbers to their devices, so that as soon as a device is bound, it has
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> sequence number. If a devicetree alias provides the number, it will be
>>>>>>>> used. Otherwise, during initial binding, the first free number is
>>>>>>> used.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What does "first free number mean"?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a device tree with the following aliases for network:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> aliases {
>>>>>>> ethernet0 = &enetc0;
>>>>>>> ethernet1 = &enetc1;
>>>>>>> ethernet2 = &enetc2;
>>>>>>> ethernet3 = &enetc6;
>>>>>>> };
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The individual devices might be disabled, depending on the board variant
>>>>>>> (which might also be dynamically determined during startup).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> By disabled, do you mean that they are marked 'status = "disabled"'?
>>>>>
>>>>> yes
>>>>>
>>>>>> If so, then they are ignored by DM and will not claim their number.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My first smoke test with this series show the following:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> uclass 32: eth
>>>>>>> 0 * enetc-0 @ ffd40e60, seq 0
>>>>>>> 1 * ax88179_eth @ ffd51f50, seq 1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Looks like the usb ethernet device will get seq 1 assigned (after "usb
>>>>>>> start"). Is this intended?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If so, this is a problem, because for ethernet devices, the MAC address
>>>>>>> is assigned according to the ethNaddr variable. And at least for this
>>>>>>> board (kontron_sl28) the first four are reserved for the ones with the
>>>>>>> alias entries. Thus I'd have expected that the usb device will get seq 4
>>>>>>> assigned.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OK, so you mean after all existing aliases, even if they did not bind.
>>>>>> I think we can do that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Great, that will also match the current behavior. See
>>>>> be1a6e94254af205bd67d69e3bdb26b161ccd72f ("dm: uclass: don't assign
>>>>> aliased seq numbers")
>>>>
>>>> Also take a look at 83e4c7e9ffa57fe4116967999c223c952a46a78a
>>>> which is more or less the same things as is done in linux
>>>> by351d224f64afc1b3b359a1738b7d4600c7e64061
>>>>
>>>> And we are using it for i2c subsystem.
>>>>
>>>> If you look at Linux kernel i2c/spi subsystems they are using it for
>>>> quite a while. Recently mmc subsystem starts to use it.
>>>> On the other hand we had similar discussion around networking and it has
>>>> never started to be used.
>>>>
>>>> In general make sense if you have uclass that it is recorded(based on
>>>> aliases) the first highest free ID and start to use it for devices which
>>>> are not listed or don't have record in aliases.
>>>>
>>>> That's IMHO the best predictable behavior we could reach. If you care
>>>> about numbering scheme then your device should have alias.
>>>>
>>>> Also if there are devices which doesn't have alias keyword we should
>>>> work with DT guys to get it listed in the spec.
>>>
>>> Do you mean the root of the name (e.g. i2c for i2c1)?
>>
>> yes assigned the root of the name to specific uclass.
>
> Oh gosh, I didn't even know they were in the DT spec.
In DT spec you have recommended node names which is more or less fit
with uclasses.
>>
>>>
>>> Also has there been any discussion of using phandles instead of
>>> strings? Perhaps we could create a new node with that approach.
>>
>> What do you mean by string?
>> Aliases are not using phandles. It is just label converted to path.
>> for example from dtc -I dtb -O dts.
>>
>> aliases {
>> ethernet0 = "/amba_pl/ethernet at 40c00000";
>> i2c0 = "/amba_pl/i2c at 40800000";
>> serial0 = "/amba_pl/serial at 40600000";
>> };
>
> Yes that's my point. It uses strings, which is inefficient. I feel we
> could use phandles instead and solve a number of problems.
If you want to change it we can't change it in one project only. And
this discussion should be made against DT specification.
Another thing is that that Linux is not capable to update aliases when
for example DT overlay is applied. This part is completely ignored even
if there is no collision. Nothing important for U-Boot but something to
keep in mind.
IIRC We don't support run time overlay applying to be able to add more
nodes (but would be useful to have it too).
Thanks,
Michal
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