[PATCH v3 0/6] Improved sysreset/watchdog uclass integration

Heinrich Schuchardt heinrich.schuchardt at canonical.com
Mon Nov 8 17:17:33 CET 2021

On 11/8/21 17:05, Tom Rini wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 08, 2021 at 08:58:33AM -0700, Simon Glass wrote:
>> Hi,
>> On Sun, 7 Nov 2021 at 04:18, Heinrich Schuchardt
>> <heinrich.schuchardt at canonical.com> wrote:
>>> On 11/6/21 14:53, Tom Rini wrote:
>>>> On Sat, Nov 06, 2021 at 04:55:44AM +0100, Heinrich Schuchardt wrote:
>>>>> On 11/6/21 02:52, Andre Przywara wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 5 Nov 2021 18:56:34 -0400
>>>>>> Tom Rini <trini at konsulko.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 05, 2021 at 09:38:50PM +0100, Heinrich Schuchardt wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 11/5/21 20:17, Tom Rini wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 05, 2021 at 07:37:02PM +0100, Heinrich Schuchardt wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 11/5/21 17:12, Simon Glass wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 5 Nov 2021 at 08:21, Tom Rini <trini at konsulko.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 05, 2021 at 12:14:47PM +0100, Stefan Roese wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Andre,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Added Tom to Cc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 05.11.21 11:04, Andre Przywara wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 4 Nov 2021 20:02:41 -0600
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Simon Glass <sjg at chromium.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 4 Nov 2021 at 19:22, Stefan Roese <sr at denx.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Andre,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 05.11.21 00:11, Andre Przywara wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 4 Nov 2021 11:37:57 +0100
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stefan Roese <sr at denx.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Stefan,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 04.11.21 04:55, Samuel Holland wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This series hooks up the watchdog uclass to automatically register
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> watchdog devices for use with sysreset, doing a bit of minor cleanup
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> along the way.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The goal is for this to replace the sunxi board-level non-DM reset_cpu()
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> function. I was surprised to find that the wdt_reboot driver requires
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its own undocumented device tree node, which references the watchdog
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> device by phandle. This is problematic for us, because sunxi-u-boot.dtsi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file covers 20 different SoCs with varying watchdog node phandle names.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So it would have required adding a -u-boot.dtsi file for each board.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hooking things up automatically makes sense to me; this is what Linux
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does. However, I put the code behind a new option to avoid surprises for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other platforms.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Changes in v3:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          - Move condition to wdt-uclass.c to fix build errors.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          - Include watchdog name in error message.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Changes in v2:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          - Extend the "if SYSRESET" block to the end of the file.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          - Also make gpio_reboot_probe function static.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          - Rebase on top of 492ee6b8d0e7 (now handle all watchdogs).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          - Added patches 5-6 as an example of how the new option will be used.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Samuel Holland (6):
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           sysreset: Add uclass Kconfig dependency to drivers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           sysreset: Mark driver probe functions as static
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           sysreset: watchdog: Move watchdog reference to plat data
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           watchdog: Automatically register device with sysreset
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           sunxi: Avoid duplicate reset_cpu with SYSRESET enabled
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           sunxi: Use sysreset framework for poweroff/reset
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          arch/arm/Kconfig                     |  3 +++
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          arch/arm/mach-sunxi/board.c          |  2 ++
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          drivers/sysreset/Kconfig             | 11 ++++++--
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          drivers/sysreset/sysreset_gpio.c     |  2 +-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          drivers/sysreset/sysreset_resetctl.c |  2 +-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          drivers/sysreset/sysreset_syscon.c   |  2 +-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          drivers/sysreset/sysreset_watchdog.c | 40 ++++++++++++++++++++++------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          drivers/watchdog/wdt-uclass.c        |  8 ++++++
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          include/sysreset.h                   | 10 +++++++
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          9 files changed, 67 insertions(+), 13 deletions(-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Applied to u-boot-marvell
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mmmh, why u-boot-marvell,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because I'm handling watchdog related changed since a few years and we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> did not create a specific subsystem repo for this and I'm usually
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using my "marvell" one for this.
>>>>>>>>>>>> And fwiw, there's a few other cases like this.  If it's too confusing,
>>>>>>>>>>>> maybe we should just roll out a few more repositories, I think it's
>>>>>>>>>>>> easier to do that now than pre-gitlab?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and why did this end up already in master?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Isn't that material for the next merge window? After all this changes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quite a bit, for a lot of boards, and I did not have a closer look at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the sunxi parts yet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was hesitating also a bit. But since this patchset is on the list in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> v1 since over 2 months now (2021-08-21) I thought it was "ready" for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inclusion now. We are at -rc1 and I think we still have enough time to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fix any resulting problems in this release cycle.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do we have the merge window then? This is clearly not a regression or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> general fix.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> AFAIU, we are a bit less strict here in U-Boot. Patches that were posted
>>>>>>>>>>>>> before the merge-window and skipped the review process (most likely
>>>>>>>>>>>>> because of lack of time) are often still integrated in the early rcX
>>>>>>>>>>>>> cycles. At least this is how I handle it usually.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tom, is my understanding here correct?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes.  We are not as strict as the kernel is about what can come in
>>>>>>>>>>>> between rc1 and rc2 (and to a certain degree, post rc2).  I leave things
>>>>>>>>>>>> up to the discretion of the custodians.  People tend of have less time
>>>>>>>>>>>> to handle U-Boot changes than other stuff, so I try and be flexible in
>>>>>>>>>>>> picking things up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes I agree, that should be plenty of time for people to review it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, if there would be people to review the sunxi parts :-(
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am totally fine with the generic patches (as they have been reviewed),
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but the sunxi integration is somewhat risky.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was explicitly deprioritising that in my queue, as it really doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change, add or fix anything, it's mere refactoring, from the user's point
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of view.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you see any specific issues?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Patch 6/6 changes the config for all 157 Allwinner boards, so I think that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deserves at least some testing, *before* merging it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I expect that Samuel did some testing. But still, I agree that it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be much better, if these patches - especially the Allwinner parts
>>>>>>>>>>>>> got more extensive testing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will do as much testing now as possible, but I am not happy about that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> situation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Understood. Should we revert patch 6/6 for now?
>>>>>>>>>>>> FWIW, given Samuel has been doing a number of allwinner changes, I had
>>>>>>>>>>>> also assumed it was sufficiently tested, which is why I didn't raise a
>>>>>>>>>>>> further concern when I saw the widespread nature of the overall changes,
>>>>>>>>>>>> just figured it was a few more ready-to-go cleanups that weren't quite
>>>>>>>>>>>> picked up in time.  Please do speak up if you want me to revert the last
>>>>>>>>>>>> part.
>>>>>>>>>>> Also it is often true that people find problems by testing on master
>>>>>>>>>>> so applying it helps to shake the tree a bit.
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> Simon
>>>>>>>>>> We don't actually have a problem with this series but with a previous
>>>>>>>>>> watchdog patch. The culprit according to bisecting is:
>>>>>>>>>> b147bd3607f8 ("sunxi: Enable watchdog timer support by default")
>>>>>>>>>> When booting the OrangePi PC the watchdog triggers while Linux is booting,
>>>>>>>>>> ca. 16 s after leaving the UEFI subsystem. This matches WDT_MAX_TIMEOUT in
>>>>>>>>>> drivers/watchdog/sunxi_wdt.c.
>>>>>>>>>> If I run
>>>>>>>>>> => wdt dev watchdog at 1c20ca0
>>>>>>>>>> => wdt stop
>>>>>>>>>> before the bootefi command booting succeeds.
>>>>>>>>>> We don't disarm the watchdog and Linux does not do it for us in time.
>>>>>>>>>> The UEFI specification requires that the default watchdog reset time is 300
>>>>>>>>>> s. We should never arm the Sunxi hardware watchdog except within the
>>>>>>>>>> watchdog reset driver.
>>>>>>>>>> The solution is to disable CONFIG_WATCHDOG_AUTOSTART on SUNXI. See
>>>>>>>>>> [PATCH 1/1] watchdog: don't autostart watchdog on Sunxi boards
>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.denx.de/pipermail/u-boot/2021-November/466318.html
>>>>>>>>> This means we never did come up with a satisfactory to everyone solution
>>>>>>>>> to what UEFI thinks a watchdog should do, and what other types of
>>>>>>>>> deployment think a watchdog should do, yes?
>>>>>>>> Dear Tom,
>>>>>>>> The issue is *not* UEFI specific.
>>>>>>>> A watchdog timeout of 16 seconds is too short for Linux to boot no matter
>>>>>>>> whether you use the EFI stub or the legacy entry point.
>>>>>>>> I only referred to the UEFI specification as it indicates what can be
>>>>>>>> considered as a reasonable timeout interval: 300 seconds.
>>>>>>> 16 seconds from the last time we pet the watchdog in U-Boot to the
>>>>>>> kernel being able to take over is quite reasonable.
>>>>>> How do we know that the kernel takes over? What if the kernel/EFI
>>>>>> payload doesn't have a watchdog driver? I was assuming that the
>>>>>> watchdog would be disabled as soon as we boot a kernel or an EFI app
>>>>>> calls ExitBootServices (maybe even earlier).
>>>>>> But this sounds like a generic problem, not sunxi specific. So how do
>>>>>> other platforms solve this?
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Andre
>>>>> The UEFI specification has this requirement in chapter "3.1.2 Load Option
>>>>> Processing":
>>>>> "... the boot manager must enable the watchdog timer for 5 minutes by using
>>>>> the EFI_BOOT_SERVICES.SetWatchdogTimer() boot service prior to calling
>>>>> EFI_BOOT_SERVICES.StartImage(). If a boot option returns control to the boot
>>>>> manager, the boot manager must disable the watchdog timer with an additional
>>>>> call to the SetWatchdogTimer() boot service."
>>>>> This means that having an armed watchdog when starting the kernel is
>>>>> correct.
>>>>> If you start a watchdog in the firmware which is not disabled or reset by
>>>>> the operating system, you are out of luck and won't be able to boot.
>>>>> Current Linux has driver drivers/watchdog/sunxi_wdt.c compatible to
>>>>> "allwinner,sun4i-a10-wdt","allwinner,sun6i-a31-wdt" and enabled by
>>>>> CONFIG_SUNXI_WATCHDOG. This driver was introduced in Linux v3.12. It
>>>>> originally had compatible "allwinner,sun4i-wdt" only.
>>>>> Debian Bullseye has the driver enabled as a module. In the bootlog of the
>>>>> Orange Pi PC I find:
>>>>> [   12.321909] sunxi-wdt 1c20ca0.watchdog: Watchdog enabled (timeout=16 sec,
>>>>> nowayout=0)
>>>>> This message appears approximately *20 seconds* after the EFI stub hands
>>>>> over to the main kernel. Adding the driver to initrd shortens this to *18
>>>>> seconds*. The message occurs after file system checks which can be a lengthy
>>>>> operation. In Debian systemd manages the watchdog.
>>>>> As I said: 16 seconds is way too short for a hardware watchdog timeout.
>>>> What's the time if you build it in?
>>> For sure you will find some board and configuration that is faster.
>>> But why should I care? This series breaks booting Debian on my board. So
>>> it needs to be fixed. So, please, apply my patch that is doing so.
>> Five minutes sounds completely unacceptable for embedded platforms.
>> The user will surely have packaged the item up and will be just
>> heading out to drop it off for return...

I have no problem with people switching on the SUNXI hardware watchdog 
for their specific embedded solution. But here it was switched on for 
all SUNXI boards and breaks booting into Linux distributions.

If the Linux distribution resets the watchdog *after* file system checks 
because it is managed by systemd (as is true for Debian), 5 minutes is 

> I'm trying to avoid bringing up the long discussion from the previous
> thread about this :)
>> Do we need to add a special case for UEFI here? E.g. bootefi could use
>> a hook to lengthen the watchdog?

The problem is not UEFI related.

> Well, the problem is that the hardware watchdog has a maximum period of
> 16 seconds, I believe.

Yes, Sunxi is limited to 16 seconds.

Best regards


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