[PATCH v17 09/10] arm_ffa: efi: introduce FF-A MM communication

Abdellatif El Khlifi abdellatif.elkhlifi at arm.com
Wed Aug 2 12:36:53 CEST 2023


Hi Jens,

On Tue, Aug 01, 2023 at 02:28:34PM +0200, Jens Wiklander wrote:
> > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > Changelog:
> > > > > > > ===============
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > v17:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > * show a debug message rather than an error when FF-A is not detected
> > > > > > [snip]
> > > > > > > diff --git a/lib/efi_loader/Kconfig b/lib/efi_loader/Kconfig
> > > > > > > index c5835e6ef6..8fbadb9201 100644
> > > > > > > --- a/lib/efi_loader/Kconfig
> > > > > > > +++ b/lib/efi_loader/Kconfig
> > > > > > > @@ -55,13 +55,53 @@ config EFI_VARIABLE_FILE_STORE
> > > > > > >         stored as file /ubootefi.var on the EFI system partition.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >  config EFI_MM_COMM_TEE
> > > > > > > -     bool "UEFI variables storage service via OP-TEE"
> > > > > > > -     depends on OPTEE
> > > > > > > +     bool "UEFI variables storage service via the trusted world"
> > > > > > > +     depends on OPTEE && ARM_FFA_TRANSPORT
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You didn't get my changes in here however. If you can do EFI_MM_COMM_TEE
> > > > > > without ARM_FFA_TRANSPORT (as lx2160ardb_tfa_stmm_defconfig does) then
> > > > > > you don't make this option depend on .  If FF-A is only
> > > > > > for use here, you make FF-A depend on this, and the FF-A specific
> > > > > > variable depend on ARM_FFA_TRANSPORT.
> > > > >
> > > > > Abdellatif hinted at what's going on here.  When I added this Kconfig
> > > > > option to lx2160 FF-A wasn't implemented yet.
> > > >
> > > > The defconfig has existed since May 2020, which is when you added
> > > > EFI_MM_COMM_TEE itself too.  So I think it's that no one did the check I
> > > > did until now and saw this series was disabling what was on the other
> > > > platform.
> > > >
> > > > > Since FF-A isn't a new
> > > > > communication mechanism but builds upon the existing SMCs to build an
> > > > > easier API, I asked Abdellatif to hide this complexity.
> > > > > We had two options, either make Kconfig options for either FF-A or the
> > > > > traditional SMCs and remove the dependencies,  or piggyback on FF-As
> > > > > discovery mechanism and make the choice at runtime.  The latter has a
> > > > > small impact on code size, but imho makes developers' life a lot
> > > > > easier.
> > > >
> > > > I'm not sure how much you can do a run-time option here since you're
> > > > setting a bunch of default values for FF-A to 0 in Kconfig.  If we're
> > > > supposed to be able to get them at run time, we shouldn't need a Kconfig
> > > > option at all.  I'm also not sure how valid a use case it is where we
> > > > won't know at build time what the rest of the firmware stack supports
> > > > here.
> > > >
> > >
> > > That's a fair point.  FF-A in theory has APIs to discover memory.
> > > Abdellatif, why do we need the Kconfigs for shared memory on FF-A?
> >
> > The statically carved out MM shared buffer address, size and offset cannot be discovered by FF-A ABIs.
> > The MM communication driver in U-Boot could allocate the buffer and share it with the MM SP but
> > we do not implement that support currently in either U-Boot or UEFI.
> >
> > Simon suggested we use build configs to set the buffer address, size and offset since we don't want
> > a DT node for the MM firmware.
> 
> In the OP-TEE driver we're allocating memory to share dynamically
> using malloc() or memalign(). Why isn't the same approach possible
> here?
> 

FF-A memory sharing can not be used because the MM SP needs to know the layout
of the MM communication buffer during initialisation. This happens before the Normal world
has got a chance to run. So we have a chicken and egg and Normal World cannot use FF-A ABIs
to share the buffer as things stand.

Cheers,
Abdellatif


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