[PATCH 2/2 v3] smbios: Fallback to the default DT if sysinfo nodes are missing

Ilias Apalodimas ilias.apalodimas at linaro.org
Thu Dec 21 08:43:35 CET 2023


Hi Simon,

On Wed, 20 Dec 2023 at 19:33, Simon Glass <sjg at chromium.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Ilias,
>
> On Wed, 20 Dec 2023 at 00:26, Ilias Apalodimas
> <ilias.apalodimas at linaro.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Simon,
> >
> > On Mon, 18 Dec 2023 at 23:07, Simon Glass <sjg at chromium.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Neil,
> > >
> > > On Mon, 18 Dec 2023 at 08:37, <neil.armstrong at linaro.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > On 18/12/2023 16:01, Simon Glass wrote:
> > > > > Hi Neil,
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, 18 Dec 2023 at 02:54, <neil.armstrong at linaro.org> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On 17/12/2023 19:41, Tom Rini wrote:
> > > > >>> On Sat, Dec 16, 2023 at 11:46:18AM -0700, Simon Glass wrote:
> > > > >>>> Hi Tom,
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> On Thu, 14 Dec 2023 at 06:11, Tom Rini <trini at konsulko.com> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > > [..]
> > > > >
> > > > >>> And my point with the above is that other SoC maintainers (Neil, for
> > > > >>> amlogic) have said (paraphrasing) he does not want to do N smbios node
> > > > >>> patches. Which is why Ilias' patch is if not 1000% correct, it's Good
> > > > >>> Enough and will, if it's really a problem to have all lower case
> > > > >>> information displayed, spur people to see providing that information as
> > > > >>> a real problem that needs to be solved. Or it will be seen as good
> > > > >>> enough.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> If some platforms requires a more "correct" smbios dataset, then they're
> > > > >> welcome adding the required smbios node, and it's perfectly understandable,
> > > > >> but for the other community-maintained platforms we need some valid fallback
> > > > >> data otherwise they'll be de facto excluded from some tools for no valid reasons.
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you know which tools require SMBIOS tables? I found sos and another
> > > > > Redhat one.
> > > >
> > > > SMBIOS data is translated into dmi informations in Linux, and a little
> > > > lookup in GitHub gives 6.4K files using something from /sys/devices/virtual/dmi/id/,
> > > > and by very commonly used tools like lshw and probably fwupd.
> > >
> > > lshw also uses devicetree, so should not also need SMBIOS.
> > >
> > > fwupd uses UUIDs to indicate the device. So far as I know (and I wrote
> > > a plugin for it, so at least know something), it does not rely on
> > > SMBIOS tables.
> > >
> >
> > It does use smbios tables. It also relies on them for some info for
> > capsule updates. Hence the fix in commit ff192304b699
>
> Just on that point, can you point to what is used there?

It's described in the commit message

Thanks
/Ilias
>
> Regards,
> Simon
>
> >
> > > Here is my main question: is SMBIOS:
> > >
> > > 1) just informational, not affecting the operation of the device
> > > 2) important and needed for the device to function
> > >
> > > If it is (1), then I don't mind what is in the tables - we could
> > > perhaps add a '?' at the start of each string to indicate it is
> > > provisional?
> > > If it is (2), then I want to avoid adding information that might be
> > > wrong / might change over the life of the device
> > >
> > > In either case, putting these workarounds behind a Kconfig seems
> > > reasonable to me. What do you think?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Simon


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