[PATCH 01/13] ti:keys Add EFI signature list

Jon Humphreys j-humphreys at ti.com
Fri Apr 12 23:48:19 CEST 2024


Ilias Apalodimas <ilias.apalodimas at linaro.org> writes:

> Hi Jon,
>
>
> On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 at 20:35, Jon Humphreys <j-humphreys at ti.com> wrote:
>>
>> Ilias Apalodimas <ilias.apalodimas at linaro.org> writes:
>>
>> > On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 at 23:14, Andrew Davis <afd at ti.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On 4/9/24 2:26 PM, Heinrich Schuchardt wrote:
>> >> > On 4/9/24 14:14, Andrew Davis wrote:
>> >> >> On 4/8/24 10:34 PM, Heinrich Schuchardt wrote:
>> >> >>> On 4/8/24 23:33, Jonathan Humphreys wrote:
>> >> >>>> EFI signature list using TI dummy keys.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Adding vendor public keys into the code base to lock down generated
>> >> >>> binaries to the vendors unpublished private key does not match well with
>> >> >>> the intent of the GNU public license.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The matching private keys are already published in this same
>> >> >> repo/directory (arch/arm/mach-k3/keys).
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Andrew
>> >> >
>> >> > Why should we create signed capsules which are already compromised by
>> >> > publishing the private key?
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> If you buy these devices you have two options, you can burn real
>> >> keys, or you can burn these dummy keys. If you burn dummy keys
>> >> then these images will boot and so will any image you or anyone
>> >> else wants to boot on the device. (since the keys are published
>> >> anyone can make images for them, that is how we do GP (general
>> >> purpose) devices these days)
>> >>
>> >> If you burn your own keys, then you switch out these keys here
>> >> and your device will only boot images that you permit by signing
>> >> with your keys.
>> >
>> > I am not sure I am following you here.  We don't burn anything in the
>> > case of EFI keys. They are placed in an elf section and we assume the
>> > device will have a chain of trust enabled, naturally verifying those
>> > keys along with the u-boot binary.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> You'll find plenty of open source projects do the same and
>> >> give out example keys to show how to use real keys, even
>> >> official GNU projects.
>> >
>> > Yes, but the keys defined here are useless unless you have a default
>> > defconfig that uses them and embeds them in the binary. I am not cc'ed
>> > in all the patches of the series, is that added somewhere? And if you
>>
>> Yes, they are part of this series
>> https://lore.kernel.org/r/20240408213349.96610-1-j-humphreys@ti.com.
>> Thanks for the reviews.
>>
>> > unconditionally enable secure boot It would be far more interesting to
>> > embed the MS SHIM key along with that special key you are trying to
>> > define, so that firmware can boot COTS distros as well
>>
>> Yes, we should consider.  But since that is outside of the EFI capsule
>> use case, I would rather take it up in a separate patch.
>
> Ok, the commit message wasn't clear, and based on Andrews's initial
> response I thought you wanted to use those for UEFI secure boot, not
> capsule updates.
> Those are your boards so I won't NAK this, but I'd strongly advise
> *not* to add this.  I assume you want capsule auth by default because
> SystemReady-IR >=2.0 mandates it?
>
> In that case, it would be a far better idea to document the process of
> creating signed capsules clearly either in U-Boots EFI docs and/or
> your board docs.
> I am pretty confident that if we merge this now we will have future
> products using the keys above

Thanks Ilias.

If I understand you correctly, I don't agree with the approach of not
having a working implementation so that developers are forced to think
through their support.  Not having a feature enabled in upstream leads
to latent bugs, bit rot, lack of coordination and openess, etc.  It
worries me that there are so many claims of authenticated capsule
support but nothing in upstream on those devices.

But I absolutely acknowledge your concern that if we make this 'just
work' then developers will overlook the details and not properly secure
their solutions.

What I suggest to mitigate this:
1) as you say, add documentation, including a 'porting guide' section so
   developers know what steps they need to take, and
2) Add a developer config that is set by default.  With this config set,
   during capsule updates, emit a warning message that
   instructs them to read the porting section of the doc to ensure they
   have secured their solution.  To remove the warning, a developer would
   follow the porting guidelines and then unset the "developer config"
   configuration to signify they have secured the solution.  This is
   what optee does, emitting the below during boot, until the config is
   unset:

I/TC: WARNING: This OP-TEE configuration might be insecure!
I/TC: WARNING: Please check
https://optee.readthedocs.io/en/latest/architecture/porting_guidelines.html

Last, I am pondering the idea of not including the actual .esl
certificate, but rather adding a make step that would generate the
certificate from a given keypair.  For the TI upstream implementation,
we would point to the open developer keys already being used to
demonstrate secure boot.  As part of porting, the developer would point
to their own keys. That way the certificate has the developer's info,
even if they are using our open keys for development purposes.
Thoughts?

Outside of the capsule authentication aspect, the porting section would
be a good place to remind the developer to define his own capsule GUIDs
as well.

Jon

>
> Thanks
> /Ilias
>>
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> > /Ilias
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> https://github.com/gpg/gnupg/tree/master/tests/openpgp/samplekeys
>> >>
>> >> Andrew
>> >>
>> >> > Best regards
>> >> >
>> >> > Heinrich
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> Best regards
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Heinrich
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Signed-off-by: Jonathan Humphreys <j-humphreys at ti.com>
>> >> >>>> ---
>> >> >>>>   arch/arm/mach-k3/keys/custMpk.esl | Bin 0 -> 1523 bytes
>> >> >>>>   1 file changed, 0 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
>> >> >>>>   create mode 100644 arch/arm/mach-k3/keys/custMpk.esl
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> diff --git a/arch/arm/mach-k3/keys/custMpk.esl
>> >> >>>> b/arch/arm/mach-k3/keys/custMpk.esl
>> >> >>>> new file mode 100644
>> >> >>>> index
>> >> >>>> 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..2feb704e0a5fd126410de451d3c0fa4d3edccc52
>> >> >>>> GIT binary patch
>> >> >>>> literal 1523
>> >> >>>> zcmZ1&d0^?2Da*aux2_hA(f&~MnUw(yu0v at E4?-F=u^u*PVqVQ8QZ((-^A*$m*Kg7c
>> >> >>>> z&78AJODc2mtxpELY at Awc9&O)w85y}*84Mcd8gd(OvN4CUun9AT2E#ZUJWL at GhWtR)
>> >> >>>> zKpA!(HkZVloWx>7bput902hy3NNPo5v4Uq_aY<2WZfaf$h at G5YRFGekSdyAzC~P1I
>> >> >>>> zQpnB26;PC)oLXF*UsMbeWai-t at l*&dEdVMmF_blshP#N9QH-w`BJNO<sh6CeYal1i
>> >> >>>> zYh-L-W?*PwYGi0=7A4MWYz$;tLb-$9{Y^|t$U)A?%D~*j#Lr;R#Kgta#Kg$3Uu2!<
>> >> >>>> zjryX?*~({Md+?>+QS$x7=il`0?bc6sZ`Vxxl^6N{>i2E;SY*4-T$+0G;)5dxe+2CR
>> >> >>>> z at 4+)sDPWdQb@%6KTpDVdm)v}?GSpG(w_UV)&i+#e3fJowDZO)JR83lIcbw(hMu}}Y
>> >> >>>> z2ZZwYAI-LVx@^G;HdkgxaX&Hnl_l3&{H|3l7uX at Vl5di{>fQQ{pDynFlySp2(z~g)
>> >> >>>> z{LIBUzm&K9j_CMw_SIFfPdcT#zmg6g<ji}(R`6geJLk-#o7bK^&&fT}#2zsD`=c9g
>> >> >>>> zFUCK<Fz@{2kel&$W6zl<d|WNk#ZsNRd{_N_SJxWvh0*K$j!m)c at oT>{#b(Lp`M3Uj
>> >> >>>> zGOKycyEe+n{G(Rmg}jB!)0ySk-!kkj_R7#OT+}pcG0VXh?f+ftRvnyw#hUea^Iyfn
>> >> >>>> ze|zgKPKrqe at jYWU?v<50X(n^lZ*G%j$JyCh`*Px|H*K=2WXP)hx>jng+}Q}N^KoDN
>> >> >>>> z8dh8T-~Dmrp2?yk3O6Gqbz7O@<TEz<^zIa7d#PKtHKHeAg?V0DMSin^o3F|IEfQWk
>> >> >>>> zcmJwBy6&2hKub%G{j3IK(?7m at uI43#1e~wSZJ5sTtDjrp at 7@{O3(faN{`Gp}x{$M5
>> >> >>>> z{A7`c at pjfYq1Z=JvgZ^-zCC<(HFTBwYhTX$k`7IJX`SM!H}f`Mv+(Op6uVY(<(^o4
>> >> >>>> zpyXAj9nF_c-1A<UIel9%6Eh<NBXSA>W=dcRVPvS;*B%(4`P|iK>Vg$XDgN9sr}Df{
>> >> >>>> z7X0es=RPHr8RB+*)}q}h%gn?x9PO4y*Qog};x<<LS+lxk$@$kYlG_hXu6p%jvB<%l
>> >> >>>> zmcsdI9w!^rFPt^&c~{1?L~DJ4TRPv>t%rn8xi;KBE9A!Dppb9yru|>RCb9PcXWpE>
>> >> >>>> zKlQ}fzw*izXI|}|r!O*nb&cP9#VhHRn;B<SRflN2Jl(*;W4e0LD$ORRIdjjhURZH+
>> >> >>>> zXWR0Vllb2@>`1LC^xvIctvLCYhRA_6yCS~2&!0SH1xwv(O~<l(HQxHJxzF!T_>+5t
>> >> >>>> z^|E$S{MM^8j9J5`sQ6pud{2Lz?k`zncbjvHj%eutjusUol}8;%cbPLCO|e;ZJ^tXe
>> >> >>>> z_N{pmM}uCi3UWO3=hMc<s}m1Jx4GS4F(<_N`R|o+)eAK3Yx{o$ygRe!;<_EoF&UhP
>> >> >>>> zrslJ=2XA9^$j#UDYwo;ZvZwb!|L%YP%v|ie|7-1PP+q3DZ&vEWgHHrjHv|NzEVjO?
>> >> >>>> zKFeRbXv>iTPl?N16Xv at buq_d@TU<MB;uD_jX^$J`&*C>`uX0_s&g9M2C6cKx4E;{?
>> >> >>>> zt`1&)Tk-yb?sKMPI~!}xt*d*!tMat!r1`}jul#i at lDB8rnu>ba_-^4!iQ5{|tb3TX
>> >> >>>> z>fTMIw2!Me3{Dw*WZotC<4 at h<H`zaL+~Es<{Ccj5yS7zyNU!YsTG`^JqA6NkU%vnV
>> >> >>>> D66<<J
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> literal 0
>> >> >>>> HcmV?d00001
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >


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