Rate of change in the project (Was: Re: xPL Proposal)

[Simon Glass]

Hi Tom,

(I think you chopped off too much context, so I've added it below)

On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 at 11:11, Tom Rini <trini at konsulko.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Feb 21, 2025 at 11:53:20AM -0600, Tom Rini wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 21, 2025 at 08:03:12AM -0700, Simon Glass wrote:
> > > Hi Tom,
> [snip]

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> > > > >
> > > > > Sure, but we can't even get sunxi bootstd or LED over the line. How do
> > > > > you imagine we could retire the legacy image?
> > > >
> > > > Partly by focusing on one thing and not 5 things at a time. bootstd is
> > > > stuck on reworking efi bootmanager integration, and LED is waiting for
> > > > someone to confirm that really, finally, we have all of the old use
> > > > cases supported in the new code.
> > > >
> > > > But more importantly, do we really have anyone not using u-boot.img? I
> > > > don't know.
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> > > If we did one of these sorts of things at a time, we would only get
> > > 2-3 things done each year!
> >
> > A project with 4 yearly releases finishing two 2-3 big changes a year
> > sounds great to me. Rather than not finishing a dozen things?
>
> As this is a huge thread already, I'm splitting this part out.
>
> I would seriously frame slowing down and having just one big change
> being in progress at a time, until it's done, as a good thing, not a bad
> thing. We're a small community with limited bandwidth.

I can't see how that would work.

I just looked at LED[1] originally sent almost 5 months ago and the
latest version is marked 'changes requested'. I don't know of any
changes I can make. Are you hoping that [sorry forgot who it was] will
get around to digging the only affected device out of his drawer and
try to get the activity-LED going? It might take a while.

The sunxi one[2] was sent over 6 months ago and the latest version is
also marked 'changes requested'. You could apply that series with
either the bootmgr revert or the patch that drops bootmgr for sunxi.
Then Heinrich can come along with his patch on top of that.

Regards,
Simon

[1] https://patchwork.ozlabs.org/project/uboot/list/?series=431000&state=*
[2] https://patchwork.ozlabs.org/project/uboot/list/?series=432628&state=*