Zynq MPSoC Dynamic DDR DIMM Configuration support

Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz, Foundries jorge at foundries.io
Thu May 13 09:24:32 CEST 2021

On 13/05/21, Michal Simek wrote:
> Hi Jorge,
> On 5/12/21 11:21 PM, Jorge Ramirez-Ortiz, Foundries wrote:
> > Hi Michal
> > 
> > We are doing some work on an MPSoC UZ3EG platform part of which
> > requires us to replace FSBL with SPL.
> Just for curiosity what's the reason for this requirement that fsbl is
> not enough?

we prefer to have a common boot strategy on all the boards we support
(whether it is from NXP, Xilinx, ST or TI); it just simplifies the OTA
process (including their firmwares); and of course our meta layers.

> > 
> > It seems the actual boot process is becoming an issue on these SoCs;
> > currently, 1) we embed the PMU firmware on SPL so the bootrom can
> > extract it and program it;
> Actually it is not working like this. PMU FW is own part of boot.bin and
> it is not embed in SPL.

yes, absolutely (boot.bin is what we have been flashing), holding SPL and FW 

> > 2) then SPL configures the PMU using a
> > platform specific binary that gets built also with SPL; 
> PMU cfg object.

yep, pm_cfg_obj.c

> and finally,
> > 3) SPL sets up the DDR using its psu_init_gpl.c settings (also board
> > specific, part of the XSA).
> yes.
> > 
> > It is this final step in the boot sequence that is being broken by the
> > Dynamic DDR DIMM configuration feature [1]
> > 
> > [1] https://www.xilinx.com/support/answers/75768.html
> This was developed for zcu102 and maybe others boards which have DIMM
> modules where origin part were EOL.


but notice that there is also support on u-boot for
altera/imx/marvell/microchip; so just wondering if we should add
drivers/ddr/xilinx to this list.  

> > Are you aware of any work in progress to support this? Any thoughts on
> > how to work around it and train the DDR? will the functionality
> > required to implmenet Dynamic DDR DIMM configuration be added as a
> > separate file to the XSA tarball or will we need to do some native
> > implementation in SPL?
> I am not aware about any work on SPL side to support this. IIRC FSBL
> didn't have generic DDR configuration. It was only by reading SPD and
> aligned some parameters but it is quite a long time I have looked at it
> last time.


> > Becase without a change in the last link in the process chain
> > described earlier (calls to psu_init()), DDR just wont be accessible
> > to U-BOOT or OP-TEE.
> > 
> > In our case, we were able to boot from QSPI, boot SPL (in OCM), have
> > SPL unpack and validate the FIT image, execute TF-A(in OCM), but then
> > any jumps to OP-TEE or U-BOOT would obviously not progress since the
> > DDR wasnt properly trained/initialized.
> > 
> > so, any thoughts or plans you can share?
> The question is why you need this feature to be there. It is not working
> for every DIMM module. And normally if you have custom boards you need
> just one DDR configuration (or limited number based on HW versions) and
> for that there is really no need to waste your boot up time on it.

not sure what you mean. we need this feature because it adds the
expected flexibility to the bootloader. Sure, we can hardcode DDR
configurations but why should we when it can be resolved by
software. Am I missing your point?

> You can add multiple configurations to psu_init_gpl() and based on any
> information (board rev/pins/etc) decided which one should be used.

so what you are suggesting is that we customize psu_init_gpl() to the
target (ie, have an updated xsa file with whatever config we need for
this system).  

what I fail to grasp is why we can't take a step forward and do what
we do for other architectures in u-boot. and what fsbl already does by

I mean, why not? do you foresee any integration issues with the
current bootflow?

> Thanks,
> Michal

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