[PATCH v2 7/9] Make EFI_LOADER depend on DM and OF_CONTROL

Mon Mar 28 16:15:51 CEST 2022

On Mon, Mar 28, 2022 at 12:35:09AM -0600, Simon Glass wrote:
> Hi Tom,
> 
> On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 at 16:08, Tom Rini <trini at konsulko.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 03:48:15PM -0600, Simon Glass wrote:
> > > Hi Tom,
> > >
> > > On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 at 15:33, Tom Rini <trini at konsulko.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 01:02:18PM -0600, Simon Glass wrote:
> > > > > Hi Tom,
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 at 07:52, Tom Rini <trini at konsulko.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 07:44:37PM -0600, Simon Glass wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 at 17:55, Tom Rini <trini at konsulko.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 01:45:49AM +0200, Heinrich Schuchardt wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 7/27/21 12:07 AM, Tom Rini wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 02, 2021 at 12:36:18PM -0600, Simon Glass wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > This feature should never have been made available when driver model
> > > > > > > > > > > or devicetree are disabled. Add these as conditions, so that we don't
> > > > > > > > > > > create even more barriers to migration.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Add a note about the substantial size increment associated with this
> > > > > > > > > > > option.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Simon Glass <sjg at chromium.org>
> > > > > > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Changes in v2:
> > > > > > > > > > > - Split out new patch to make EFI_LOADER depend on DM and OF_CONTROL
> > > > > > > > > > > - Note the approximate size of this feature in the help
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >   lib/efi_loader/Kconfig | 4 +++-
> > > > > > > > > > >   1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > diff --git a/lib/efi_loader/Kconfig b/lib/efi_loader/Kconfig
> > > > > > > > > > > index 6242caceb7f..466abfed300 100644
> > > > > > > > > > > --- a/lib/efi_loader/Kconfig
> > > > > > > > > > > +++ b/lib/efi_loader/Kconfig
> > > > > > > > > > > @@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
> > > > > > > > > > >   config EFI_LOADER
> > > > > > > > > > >           bool "Support running UEFI applications"
> > > > > > > > > > > - depends on OF_LIBFDT && ( \
> > > > > > > > > > > + depends on OF_LIBFDT && DM && OF_CONTROL && ( \
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Didn't Tom eliminate all boards without CONFIG_DM? Shouldn't we get rid
> > > > > > > > > of this symbol?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > No, but I did send out a message about that today as we're very close.
> > > > > > > > Much closer than I had expected us to be.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Note we will still have SPL_DM, I think.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Right.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Are there boards using DM and not OF_CONTROL or OF_CONTROL and not DM?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Yes, a few.  It's vexpress_aemv8a_semi, warp (fixed by
> > > > > > > > https://patchwork.ozlabs.org/project/uboot/patch/20210402180552.1075997-2-pbrobinson@gmail.com/
> > > > > > > > so false positive), cm_t335, devkit8000, armadillo-800eva, kzm9g and sniper.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Why are these separate symbols? Isn't this symbol to be eliminated, too?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Simon?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If we do eliminate DM it will be in a separate series. Like Tom I am
> > > > > > > pleasantly surprised at how close we are.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > But please let's consider patches on their merits. It is fine to reply
> > > > > > > with a wishlist but even better to reply with a follow-up patch.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > OK.  So, build-wise, EFI_LOADER does not require OF_CONTROL.
> > > > >
> > > > > I strongly believe it should (and it should have 5 years ago too). New
> > > > > features should not be built on pre-migration stuff.
> > > >
> > > > Well, what legacy interfaces is it using?  That's something to figure
> > > > out and address as needed.
> > >
> > > It was built on non-DM and I believe it still has code for non-DM
> > > (e.g. look for DM_MMC). Without DM, OF_CONTROL has no purpose IMO.
> > >
> > > Perhaps Heinrich has cleaned a lot of that old cruft out now?
> >
> > Now that DM_MMC and DM_VIDEO are mandatory, there is some cruft that can
> > be removed, both there and probably tree-wide.  But that's not the same
> > as OF_CONTROL.  Not all DM_xxx requires OF_CONTROL support.
> >
> > > > > > > Somewhat related, I think we need to create a separate symbol which
> > > > > > > means (OF_CONTROL && !OF_PLATDATA) so we can just check one thing.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Also I think we should push of-platdata, since otherwise we're going
> > > > > > > to hit the same problem of migrating SPL boards to DM one day.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Note that we don't have CONFIG_OF_PLATDATA just
> > > > > > CONFIG_(SPL|TPL)_OF_PLATDATA.
> > > > >
> > > > > Indeed. But we haven't defined it because we don't want to permit it.
> > > > > It is just for constrained environments and we assume that U-Boot
> > > > > proper has enough space (how else could it load Linux?)
> > > >
> > > > If OF_PLATDATA for U-Boot itself makes sense or not is a separate
> > > > discussion to have.
> > >
> > > OK, I'd love to hear the reasoning on that one day.
> >
> > This might come up again real soon now in the context of nokia_rx51 and
> > migrating away from the very old MUSB gadget driver and to modern
> > DM_USB_GADGET.  The platform is DM=y and OF_CONTROL=n and hard space
> > constrained.
> 
> Oh I see. Well I don't believe it would be that hard to enable it, but
> if it is just for one platform, is it worth it?

I'm a little lost on context at this point again.  We should be able to
make EFI_LOADER depend on DM+OF_CONTROL as today nokia_rx51 does not
enable EFI_LOADER.  It's also behind on its USB migration, which is its
own thread I should bring up again.

> > > > > > > > > lib/efi_loader/efi_disk.c is the only place where we maintain duplicate
> > > > > > > > > code for DM and non-DM. A dependency on CONFIG_BLK (which itself depends
> > > > > > > > > on CONFIG_DM) would make more sense to me. But only in a patch
> > > > > > > > > eliminating the non-BLK code.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I just know that off-hand, partition + disk + block has some corner
> > > > > > > > case, but maybe that corner case is unintentional in terms of usage
> > > > > > > > today.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >                   ARM && (SYS_CPU = arm1136 || \
> > > > > > > > > > >                           SYS_CPU = arm1176 || \
> > > > > > > > > > >                           SYS_CPU = armv7   || \
> > > > > > > > > > > @@ -25,6 +25,8 @@ config EFI_LOADER
> > > > > > > > > > >             will expose the UEFI API to a loaded application, enabling it to
> > > > > > > > > > >             reuse U-Boot's device drivers.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > +   For ARM 32-bit, this adds about 90KB to the size of U-Boot.
> > > > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > There is no unit ISO prefix K. Do you mean KiB?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 90 KiB may be the value today. Will you update it regularly? Otherwise
> > > > > > > > > don't put a number here.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I can't see that the effect on size is truly architecture specific. Why
> > > > > > > > > do you refer to 32bit ARM?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Such a comment would better fit into a documentation chapter on
> > > > > > > > > downsizing U-Boot.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Yes, we should probably drop that specific note.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > From my POV I really like these notes in Kconfig. They appear in a few
> > > > > > > places and provide people with rough guidance. I'd like to see more of
> > > > > > > them. I don't know how we can keep them up-to-date, although I'd argue
> > > > > > > that they should stay constant, if we are holding to our no-bloat
> > > > > > > ideal.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I feel like EFI gets a bit of an undeserved reputation here.  It's not
> > > > > > growing any worse than the rest of the world is over fixes and error
> > > > > > correction (which is to say, 16/32/40 bytes here and there).  And
> > > > > > there's not "big" new default features coming in.
> > > > >
> > > > > We can agree on the 'reputation' bit but I can't think of a more
> > > > > deserving feature :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > I keep getting the capsule-update series in my inbox, for example and
> > > > > I know there is TPM stuff in the works.
> > > >
> > > > Yes, but TPM and capsule-update won't be default enabled for all
> > > > platforms.  I run every PR I get (and branch I make and merge) through a
> > > > before/after world build and use buildman's sizes tools to check (aside,
> > > > I'd love some csv output format for that, but I haven't gotten around to
> > > > thinking on how to do that) and that's where I'm coming from on this.  I
> > > > am keeping an eye out for default new features everywhere, and default
> > > > new functionality everywhere.
> > >
> > > We could have buildman output some stats file as 'artifacts' in gitlab
> > > perhaps, then have a script that picks them up and stores them
> > > somewhere for analysis?
> >
> > My first thought would just be to somehow put the output of --show-sizes
> > as a CSV so I could then figure out a way to filter out that I've seen
> > for example simple_strtoul changed size on every platform.  What else is
> > there?  Today I page through the output and am good, but not perfect, at
> > spotting the outliers (for example, I had to tweak "Makefile: Move phy
> > rules into drivers/phy" because a few platforms did not enable
> > CONFIG_PHY before and those stood out from the rest of the size changes
> > due to different optimization due to changed link order).  Tooling
> > around making that less error prone would be good.  Perhaps outputting
> > all functions and sizes and platform and full/spl/tpl to a csv or json
> > would be the first step to being able to compare builds.
> 
> Sounds like something that could be added to buildman, yes. I'm not
> sure if there are other people willing to take this on?

I'm pretty sure you're the only person with a good working knowledge of
buildman, so unfortunately not.

-- 
Tom
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