Simon Glass's future with Das U-Boot project?

Quentin Schulz quentin.schulz at cherry.de
Wed Jan 15 17:53:08 CET 2025


Hi Tom,

On 1/2/25 5:13 PM, Tom Rini wrote:
> Hey all,
> 
> While I had hoped that the quiet of the last week or so had meant that
> things would perhaps return to how they had been before, Simon's large
> patch series and then comments on the TPM+bloblist patch have shown
> otherwise.
> 

I would appreciate some context and possibly links to the problematic 
comments so people who are not in the know can provide their point of 
view. A factual, as objective as possible, summary of the situation and 
maybe afterwards your complaints about it could help too. Because this 
is lacking, I'm not sure much more feedback will be shared?

> At this point, I do not know how best to handle Simon's behavior,
> without soliciting feedback in public first. At best he's created a
> soft-fork of the project with his "sjg/master" branch. I've asked him
> repeatedly to explain how he thinks this is all going to work out, in
> public. I've had private conversations with him, but I want him to
> explain in public. Or, he can post the messages if he likes.
> 
> And I am in the process of getting outside help that would in turn be
> able to help the project move beyond the BDFL model we've always used.
> Because at the end of the day, if most of the active developers would
> prefer the direction Simon wants to take everything in, that's something
> I can accept. But what's going on now is towards the worst end of
> possible outcomes I think for the project itself. And by that I mean,
> one prominent contributor steam-rolling over others and doing as the
> please and implicitly acting as an authoritative voice for the project.
> 

It's not clear what "Simon's behavior" means here so it's difficult for 
me to say what I would prefer. It's also not clear what you're asking or 
suggesting.

Is there a specific reason to keeping it vague maybe?

What I've gathered skimming through the ML the last few weeks seems to 
be about the following:
- Simon saying he merged patches into his sjg/master branch but it 
contains (?) rejected patches or is not sending pull request against 
master or next,
- Simon sending patches based off this sjg/master branch, specifically 
without notifying other reviewers/maintainers,
- Simon sending too many too big patch series too fast,

Can you please clarify what you're bothered about and on what you're 
asking our opinion/feedback?

Cheers,
Quentin


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