[U-Boot] [PATCH 00/14] Nokia RX-51 support

Pali Rohár pali.rohar at gmail.com
Sun Mar 4 22:35:44 CET 2012

On Sunday 04 March 2012 21:57:23 Marek Vasut wrote:
> Dear Pali Rohar,
> I suggest you to read through this whole mail properly, do not get angry by
> the first few lines.
> > U-Boot on Nokia N900 is broken due to bug in MMC and framebuffer driver.
> > See: http://lists.denx.de/pipermail/u-boot/2012-January/115778.html
> > http://lists.denx.de/pipermail/u-boot/2012-March/119330.html
> > 
> > Until now *nobody* responce to the first reported problem (2 months old).
> > I
> > will not do anything with Nokia N900 U-Boot code until both problem will
> > be
> > fixed!
> Firstly, we are very grateful for properly reported bugs!
> Yet you probably misunderstood how whole this free software/open source
> thing works.
> If you found a bug noone else noticed, you are not ever supposed to expect
> people on the mailing list to fall on their backs, drop everything they are
> doing and start fixing your problem. This is because they didn't observe any
> trouble and so this has no priority for them.
> And this is especially true for out-of-tree ports. N900 is good example of
> such category.
> Now if you actually report a bug to the mailing list and this bug goes
> unnoticed for an extended period of time, you're supposed to send
> subsequent email in order to alarm the people on the mailing list the bug
> report is still relevant.
> In case of U-Boot and Linux kernel, there is a list of maintainers in the
> MAINTAINERS file in the source tree, you are supposed to put these people in
> the Cc of such reports, this will greatly improve your chance of getting
> response and help. In case of U-Boot, there is also a list of custodians
> available here:
>   http://www.denx.de/wiki/U-Boot/Custodians
> But considering you are yourself a software engineer, the best approach to
> the problem you're observing is to actually debug the issue you're seeing
> and submit a patch for it. Next, fix your patches for N900 and submit them.
> It'd be a good idea to put a note in the patchset cover message that this
> depends on your previous fix.
> Now, to the problems you're observing:
> 1) Video; check if you have the following defined in your board config:
> #define CONFIG_VIDEO
> I understand that you probably want to second and the last define from the
> list above, which solves your "invert" problem and swcursor problem.
> 2) MMC; I believe Tom can comment on this one.
> On a final note, I believe you should adjust your behaviour towards the
> mailing list. The U-Boot project, as well as many other FOSS projects, is a
> collective effort to achieve the best possible result for everyone. But for
> such model to work, everyone must first give and take only afterwards and
> never too much.
> Best regards
> Marek Vasut

Ok. I already sent mail about problem 1) to video maintainer and also sent bug 
remainder to this list. Now I sent some more info about that problem, so maybe 
someone could help me.

I understand you, but mails without response look like ignored. Also now with 
U-Boot master Nokia port does not working, so it cannot be merged to master. I 
belive that you do not want/need not working code.

I'm not angry, but now I'm stucked, because I (and nobody other) was not able 
to fix problem 1) and problem 1) must be fixed before pushing rx51 patches to 
master. So I cannot work on rx51 patches...

Pali Rohár
pali.rohar at gmail.com
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