[U-Boot] [PATCH 00/14] Nokia RX-51 support

[Marek Vasut]

> On Sunday 04 March 2012 21:57:23 Marek Vasut wrote:
> > Dear Pali Rohar,
> > 
> > I suggest you to read through this whole mail properly, do not get angry
> > by the first few lines.
> > 
> > > U-Boot on Nokia N900 is broken due to bug in MMC and framebuffer
> > > driver. See:
> > > http://lists.denx.de/pipermail/u-boot/2012-January/115778.html
> > > http://lists.denx.de/pipermail/u-boot/2012-March/119330.html
> > > 
> > > Until now *nobody* responce to the first reported problem (2 months
> > > old). I
> > > will not do anything with Nokia N900 U-Boot code until both problem
> > > will be
> > > fixed!
> > 
> > Firstly, we are very grateful for properly reported bugs!
> > 
> > Yet you probably misunderstood how whole this free software/open source
> > thing works.
> > 
> > If you found a bug noone else noticed, you are not ever supposed to
> > expect people on the mailing list to fall on their backs, drop
> > everything they are doing and start fixing your problem. This is because
> > they didn't observe any trouble and so this has no priority for them.
> > 
> > And this is especially true for out-of-tree ports. N900 is good example
> > of such category.
> > 
> > Now if you actually report a bug to the mailing list and this bug goes
> > unnoticed for an extended period of time, you're supposed to send
> > subsequent email in order to alarm the people on the mailing list the bug
> > report is still relevant.
> > 
> > In case of U-Boot and Linux kernel, there is a list of maintainers in the
> > MAINTAINERS file in the source tree, you are supposed to put these people
> > in the Cc of such reports, this will greatly improve your chance of
> > getting response and help. In case of U-Boot, there is also a list of
> > custodians
> > 
> > available here:
> >   http://www.denx.de/wiki/U-Boot/Custodians
> > 
> > But considering you are yourself a software engineer, the best approach
> > to the problem you're observing is to actually debug the issue you're
> > seeing and submit a patch for it. Next, fix your patches for N900 and
> > submit them. It'd be a good idea to put a note in the patchset cover
> > message that this depends on your previous fix.
> > 
> > Now, to the problems you're observing:
> > 
> > 1) Video; check if you have the following defined in your board config:
> > 
> > #define CONFIG_VIDEO
> > #define CONFIG_VIDEO_SW_CURSOR
> > #define CONFIG_CFB_CONSOLE
> > #define CONFIG_VGA_AS_SINGLE_DEVICE
> > #define CONFIG_SYS_WHITE_ON_BLACK
> > 
> > I understand that you probably want to second and the last define from
> > the list above, which solves your "invert" problem and swcursor problem.
> > 
> > 2) MMC; I believe Tom can comment on this one.
> > 
> > On a final note, I believe you should adjust your behaviour towards the
> > mailing list. The U-Boot project, as well as many other FOSS projects, is
> > a collective effort to achieve the best possible result for everyone.
> > But for such model to work, everyone must first give and take only
> > afterwards and never too much.
> > 
> > Best regards
> > Marek Vasut
> 

Dear Pali Rohar,

> Ok. I already sent mail about problem 1) to video maintainer and also sent
> bug remainder to this list. Now I sent some more info about that problem,
> so maybe someone could help me.

Did you try the above solution for the video issues?
> 
> I understand you, but mails without response look like ignored.

That's why you need to prod, prod and prod ... in a sane way ;-)

> Also now
> with U-Boot master Nokia port does not working, so it cannot be merged to
> master. I belive that you do not want/need not working code.

That's true, but you can always fix your issues locally and submit those fixed 
upstream, followed by your newly working code.
> 
> I'm not angry, but now I'm stucked, because I (and nobody other) was not
> able to fix problem 1) and problem 1) must be fixed before pushing rx51
> patches to master. So I cannot work on rx51 patches...

So why don't YOU fix the problem? Maybe we should try diagnosing it?

I might have some time after NSWI075 on tuesday, ending 19:00, you might want to 
catch me afterwards and we can look into it for a bit?

Best regards
Marek Vasut