Bootstd for sunxi

[Heinrich Schuchardt]

On 9/26/25 16:47, Simon Glass wrote:
> Hi Tom,
> 
> On Wed, 24 Sept 2025 at 19:06, Tom Rini <trini at konsulko.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 24, 2025 at 06:34:53PM -0600, Simon Glass wrote:
>>> Hi Tom,
>>>
>>> On Wed, 24 Sept 2025 at 10:34, Tom Rini <trini at konsulko.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Sep 24, 2025 at 10:28:45AM -0600, Simon Glass wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> After the discussion on the call this week and Andre's suggestion of
>>>>> putting FEL as the first global boothmeth, I took a look this morning.
>>>>>
>>>>> I created a new v7 series without the 'efi_loader: bootstd: Drop
>>>>> bootmgr for sunxi' patch.
>>>>>
>>>>> It seems to run OK on a Linksprite_pcDuino3 but I'm not sure that is
>>>>> enough. The FEL boothmeth is first, which is good. But Heinrich did a
>>>>> series to reorder bootmgr which hasn't landed and specifically I had
>>>>> concerns about this patch[1].
>>>>>
>>>>> Given that Heinrich can't make the calls, I'll talk it through with
>>>>> him separately and reply on this thread. For now I don't see much
>>>>> benefit in sending the new v7 series, but I can if desired.
>>>>
>>>> The biggest blocking part of the sunxi series became that it showcased
>>>> the more generic problem with integration of EFI and standard boot [2]
>>>> so yes, getting that resolved first is the next big blocker for trying
>>>> to migrate more platforms. It was unclear to me then, and still unclear
>>>> to me now what the value is in exposing more platforms to what I believe
>>>> ends up being a less than optimal experience is compared with what they
>>>> experience today.
>>>
>>> I'm not sure about the less-than-optimal, but I suspect this is the
>>> bootmgr kicking in and checking the network. Heinrich has something
>>> for that and I'll talk to him in a day or two.
>>
>> Well, that's not how [2] was summarized, but it's hard to know without
>> anyone being able to try it.
> 
> My understanding is that Andre wanted to disable bootmgr for sunxi, or
> have it look only at devices mentioned by its boot variables, but
> Heinrich did not.

I would assume that I am not the only one that wants to run a Linux 
distro on Sunxi with out of the box experience. Ubuntu works just fine 
on my devices booting via EFI. Installing BSD also requires EFI.

Best regards

Heinrich

> 
>>
>>>> But since no one can actually test things out and see what is or is not
>>>> different with the switch, yes, you should post v7.
>>>
>>> OK, done! Something wrong with CI, but not sure what.
>>
>> It seems something is going on with docker.com.
> 
> OK
> 
>>
>>>> [2]: https://patchwork.ozlabs.org/project/uboot/patch/20241113150938.1534931-4-sjg@chromium.org/#3418689
> 
> 
> - Simon